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Aghanistan-KUNDUZ - A CASE OF WAR OR NO WAR?







started 12/05/2009 14:33

the German soldiers in Kunduz have long known that it does not match the German policy.
the wrangling between women and men, the German Parliament, they go on the nerves.
the're more on the nerves like the Afghans that they are subject to civil judges who do not have the slightest idea what goes on in the field, let alone that they have only some vorzuweisen an experience.

proves the case in Kunduz that set the military character wanted. it would no longer be the fool-cap of the Berlin politicians.
has so have the military carved on it in a way that makes it the American bomber pilots not understood.
should like them too!

WORLD POST

Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 9:26:22 PM
Subject: Re: the real heroes of the nation

so now I want to reporting from Washington, DC, which suggest a heart beat faster
.
as is the case, we have many more interesting things seen: Georgetown
old,
Museum of American History ,
washington monument, these huge obelisk,
new museum for american indians,
national gallery of art - modern and old,
Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden ,
the U.S. Capitol, seat of the Senate and representantenhauses and
U.S. national archives, how to the original look of the constitution, which thou hast toward the wall
in the living room and the original of Independence .

all like crazy! Guarded by police on every street corner two strip dare
with policemen. the whole city is on high alert, I can only
report.

but my steps distracted me when I was all alone for half a day, for
national air and space museum.
them there are the original space modules, of John Glenn's first to
Apollo 11, which in July 1969, flew to the moon together with the rocket,
even Charles Lindbergh's' Spirit of st. louis, keep everything original flight from history.

my ineresse but where was different: very quickly I found the exhibition from the
second World War II fighter pilots with:
an original Japanese Mitsubishi Zero, a spitfire and original Me 109 Bf

to the statistics wall space on which the An adjacent:

put first kills with 352: Major Erich Hartmann, mostly on the Eastern Front
with 301 kills: major Gerhard Barkhorn, also Eastern Front
; with 158 kills: Hans-Joachim Marseille, all British in Africa.

imagine standing there at the next two Japanese with 104 and 80 kills.
to follow two Russians ; kills with 62 and 59.
and then stops, again all named with names that Americans
with 40, 38, 34, 31 and 28 kills.

so, now look at them to pay, I pencil in my pocket always be carried by the wall in the Washington museum itself was written off.
that was for me the highlight of the whole trip.
left to brag that I place.
because I want someone once say about the German soldiers - send
him to Washington in the national air and space museum , 'was in world aviation II'.
as it is written, who were the real heroes of this war.

if I find even more about these men, I would send `` s.

end

yesterday derverfasser watch TV in the Bavarian sweet and cabaret on the second world war Lavern seen and heard. before, the forest green to be seen with his ever anti-fascist insignia on the lapel. he labadudelt always so. I was thinking on my part the two. this morning when I read the Spiegel article came to me both in memory. I might almost say, as Heinrich Heine: I think of Germany in the night, am I do sleep around. well, that between the two and the items the night was that I was able to spend good, although my ramblings on the nerves always goes out there and many say they could now stop slowly.

yet returned to Kunduz and tank truck to the bombing.
which marks the military wanted to share, be it that they wanted Afghanistan hostile, the politicians spoil in berlin the soup, either, which makes the troupe already elite spirit wide, the one with the master and little ladies in berlin nothing more to start know, one thing is clear: the owner and come with their little ladies: war or not war, this is The question no longer cope.
that suddenly a young prosecutor front from Brandenburg in decision afghanistan needs, can not offer military and that a minister of war with the true sign of peace Minister decorated and he says, was Defense Minister, make the need to offer not a soldier . has

during the Third Reich immediately upon entering the armed forces and rested in the arms-ss any party affiliation. the sense was that the party could not contribute to the troop in and should.
but in the age of the sweet and the green forest is the military any time on the dirt stage.

the two trainers in the sport federation of the author was formerly voluntary paratrooper in Nagold. Suddenly the politicians were behind it, that spirit in the elite paratroopers were awakened and then on the thought conscripted add to a group of volunteer paratrooper.
we remember the grinding of Nagold, dieter consuming, the knife-blade of a highly placed, who, as he said, butthead, do push-ups left.

it, the men and women in berlin still experience many such incidents, if they ask again and again before the, war or no war made be. but regard them only recently be trusted, that they a little pregnant or not come out do not.

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SPIEGEL ONLINE

SPIEGEL ONLINE

05th December 2009, 09:03 clock

bombing near Kunduz

U.S. fighter pilots warned sharply against air attack than previously known

Five times they recommended warning low flying over the tankers, the dropping six bombs they refused - after SPIEGEL information was U.S. fighter pilot the controversial air strike in Kunduz more critical against than previously thought. They challenged the mission statement of the German several times.
Hamburg - U.S. fighter-bomber pilots were the controversial air strike in Kunduz more critical of than previously thought. Excerpts from the Nato-final report on the incident shows that the crew of the F-15 fighter-bomber of the order to bomb the hijacked tanker, has more questions than previously known. After
told SPIEGEL information Lieutenant Colonel Lance "Gipper" Bunch, commander of the 335th Fighter Squadron Unit, in his testimony that there were differences of opinion during the operation on the question of how many bombs should be dropped. The air controller of the German colonel Georg Klein, who carries the code name "Red Baron" had called for six bombs. The crew of the F-15 explicitly rejected.
"The crew told him that this was not going to happen" - this would not happen was the answer. Only two bombs were necessary.
also shows excerpts of the radio traffic between the U.S. pilots "Dude" and the German air controller that the crew had proposed not only once or twice a warning for low, but equal to five times. "F-15 recommended a SHOW OF FORCE five times throughout the mission in order to disperse the people", is in the report - the F-15 had five times during this mission recommended such a show of force, to disperse the people on the tankers. But "Red Baron" replied: "Negative" The goal is to be immediately attacked.. "
Defence Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg had in the past week in the Bundestag surprisingly called the air attack near Kunduz as inappropriate. Even Chancellor Angela Merkel sent word through their spokesman that they see this as. For months, the Federal Government, including the new Minister Guttenberg, represented the opposite. The opposition and demanded that the Armed Forces Association of the CSU politicians to justify its pivot content in detail - his spokesman, said that the "overall picture" of the reports on the disputed airstrike make the necessary re-evaluation.


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